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Post by Larukugirl on Jun 2, 2008 5:17:41 GMT 9.5
Unwinding, you know I love Jekyll, but gosh! Yes he becomes partially horrified at Hyde's antics after a while, but the thing that really brings about his change of heart in regards to the matter is that whereas he was, in the beginning, the dominant personality who occasionally dipped his toes into the other visage, that balance shifted in the other direction with each change. So, as Hyde began to become the stronger of the two, it was Jekyll's fear of completely losing himself that at last motivated him to put an end to the transformations.
*sighs* So brilliant, so tortured...
Well, I mean, that's whether we're maintaining that Jekyll rings true to Stevenson's vision of the character.
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 2, 2008 8:58:34 GMT 9.5
Yes, yes, his reaction at the very end is nothing but human -- a struggle for self-preservation. That's what makes him so easy to empathise with. Most people on the brink of death would stop at nothing to save their own skins. Something I also find heartbreaking about him (more apparent in the book): Jekyll continually avoids lumping himself with Hyde, treating him as a separate entity altogether, unable to face the awful truth. From the songs anyway -- never seen the show -- I think Wildhorn's stayed pretty close to Stevenson's original story... but I wish he had've kept Utterson's name as Gabriel. It's so much nicer than run-of-the-mill "John". ("Gabe, I am close to the key to duality..."  ) |
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Post by Larukugirl on Jun 2, 2008 10:02:46 GMT 9.5
I know!! That was really heartbreaking because at one time or another we can all relate to the, 'I wasn't myself when I did such-and-such' mentality. *nods sagely* I wish they'd have kept Utterson's name as Gabriel, too. I love that name. I'm glad that they brought Henry into the foreground, though, instead of having the story told mainly through Utterson's perspective. I don't think that would have worked very well at all, although it worked fine for the story. Randomly, the parts where Jekyll's dialogue directly references quotes from the story make me squee. :-)!! I'd heard the stage production was odd, and deciding to satisfy my morbid curiosity, I found a video of the stage performance for J&H with Cuccioli (I believe). I was only able to watch a little bit of the transformation segment, and then had to stop because I was laughing so badly. Hahaha... oh gosh. Anywho. If we're to solely rank characters based on their merits and flaws, and not take personal tastes into consideration, I think Jekyll would come in third after The Captain and Gabby. |
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 2, 2008 10:20:37 GMT 9.5
Aye, but if we were to rank characters on their flaws (or lack of) then Teen Angel and Enjolras should be duking it out while Erik and Hyde sulk about being booted out early. I think Gabby would be a little lower on the personal flaws level though. He's adorable but let's face it, he's a skirt chaser. The parts that are directly lifted from the book make me go, "Aww." I remember my first time listening to the Prologue I was squeeing too. Anthony would be able to make the stage show work but knowing his need for perfection he'd probably end up killing himself in the process. To act it convincingly, it's physically demanding, then take into account the emotional journey... it'd be even worse than Phantom. + Jekyll - Corky Erik - 66 -------------------------------- Eisenstein - 59 Jekyll - 52 Hyde - 15 --------------------------------- Captain Corcoran - 10 |
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Post by klh44 on Jun 2, 2008 11:53:48 GMT 9.5
+ Erik
- El Capitan
Erik - 67
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Eisenstein - 59
Jekyll - 52
Hyde - 15
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Captain Corcoran - 9
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 2, 2008 16:50:51 GMT 9.5
I didn't trash it! Look at all my insightful posts in your absence!
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 2, 2008 17:45:39 GMT 9.5
It was the Erik in a playboy bunny suit comment that did it ...
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 2, 2008 17:58:03 GMT 9.5
It was an aside, okay? An aside. I put a lot of thought into the rest of that post and all you lot could respond to was the bunny comment.
Notice how as soon as Sandy left, we got back into a serious discussion?
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 2, 2008 18:14:03 GMT 9.5
I did, actually. I've also noticed that you've forgotten Roy could lurk in any place on the site, not just his own thread. You just never know ... |
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 2, 2008 18:29:29 GMT 9.5
So I'm growing a little complacent. I'm not too fussed if Roy knows my identity. I've behaved myself damn well on his forum and if he looks at the tripe I post here, that's his own fault. |
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Post by jayko on Jun 2, 2008 20:03:13 GMT 9.5
+ Hyde
- Corcoran
Erik - 67
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Eisenstein - 59
Jekyll - 52
Hyde - 17
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Captain Corcoran - 7
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Post by sanderella59 on Jun 2, 2008 20:34:07 GMT 9.5
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH! I spend all day saving lives (well, writing my monthly report on the lives we almost lost but saved due to our consummate skill, if we are being strictly accurate) and you take it upon yourselves to set upon my beloved Captain. I love him, I honestly love him! I'm shocked!!
+ Captain Hotty
- Dr Jerk
Erik - 67
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Eisenstein - 59
Jekyll - 51
Hyde - 17
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Captain Corcoran - 8
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 2, 2008 22:32:11 GMT 9.5
*raises eyebrow* "Captain Hotty"? Is that what he likes you to call him? I knew there was a reason he must lose!
+ Jekyll
- "Captain Hotty"
Erik - 67
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Eisenstein - 59
Jekyll - 52
Hyde - 17
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Captain Corcoran - 7
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Post by Larukugirl on Jun 2, 2008 23:46:36 GMT 9.5
Mmmm.... skirt chasing Gabby.  +Gabby -Erik Erik - 66 -------------------------------- Eisenstein - 60 Jekyll - 52 Hyde - 17 --------------------------------- Captain Corcoran - 7 |
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Post by sanderella59 on Jun 3, 2008 8:56:25 GMT 9.5
+ Captain Courageous
- Just Jekyll
Erik - 66
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Eisenstein - 60
Jekyll - 50
Hyde - 18
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Captain Corcoran - 8
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 3, 2008 9:12:14 GMT 9.5
There is nothing wrong with "Just Jekyll". In fact, I'd like him even more if he was just Jekyll and didn't come with his other side. >)_>
*sigh* I'm not gonna have the chance to squeeze in two posts today.
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Post by klh44 on Jun 3, 2008 11:41:50 GMT 9.5
+ Erik
- Cocoran -- sorry Sandy XP
Erik - 67
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Eisenstein - 60
Jekyll - 50
Hyde - 18
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Captain Corcoran - 7
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Post by jayko on Jun 3, 2008 20:08:21 GMT 9.5
+ Hyde
- Corcoran
Erik - 67
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Eisenstein - 60
Jekyll - 49
Hyde - 20
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Captain Corcoran - 6
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Post by sanderella59 on Jun 3, 2008 21:19:00 GMT 9.5
+ Captain Corker
- Doctor Dull
Erik - 67
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Eisenstein - 60
Jekyll - 48
Hyde - 20
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Captain Corcoran - 7
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Post by sanderella59 on Jun 3, 2008 21:30:04 GMT 9.5
I'm just paraphrasing Elton John!!!
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 3, 2008 21:39:51 GMT 9.5
Thank you Nik; I didn't want to be the one to point it ou -
No. Don't. Stop it.
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 3, 2008 22:23:07 GMT 9.5
+ Jekyll
- Corcoran
Erik - 67
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Eisenstein - 60
Jekyll - 49
Hyde - 20
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Captain Corcoran - 6
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Post by Larukugirl on Jun 3, 2008 23:49:55 GMT 9.5
+Eisenstein
-Erik
Erik - 66
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Eisenstein - 61
Jekyll - 49
Hyde - 20
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Captain Corcoran - 6
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Post by Larukugirl on Jun 4, 2008 5:54:23 GMT 9.5
Touché!  |
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Post by jayko on Jun 4, 2008 9:00:48 GMT 9.5
+ Hyde
- Corcoran
Erik - 66
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Eisenstein - 61
Jekyll - 48
Hyde - 22
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Captain Corcoran - 5
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Post by sanderella59 on Jun 4, 2008 9:34:52 GMT 9.5
+ Captain Cute
- Doctor Devoted
Erik - 66
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Eisenstein - 61
Jekyll - 47
Hyde - 22
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Captain Corcoran - 6
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Post by unwinding_fantasy on Jun 4, 2008 11:11:00 GMT 9.5
"Devoted" is a good thing, too! Not like your philandering Captain who'll "hardly ever" have affairs.
+ Jekyll
- Corcoran
Erik - 66
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Eisenstein - 61
Jekyll - 48
Hyde - 21
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Captain Corcoran - 5
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