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Post by mazza on Jun 14, 2011 22:18:01 GMT 9.5
The article is full of great quotes:
“To do this show on Broadway would probably cost between $12 million and $15 million,” says Frost. “In Australia it’s going to cost $5.5 million because things are cheaper to do here. I didn’t want a full American team coming here to do it so I really pushed for set, costumes, lighting and sound to come out of Australia.”
In the past, an Australian world premiere would have been seen as the ultimate out-of-town try-out but not anymore. “Today with the Internet that is gone,” says Waxman.
“We don’t view the Australian production as a try-out but as the ultimate production that we are honoured to premiere in Australia,” agrees Simon. “We have been so happy with every aspect of creating the show there. Of course we hope that this will be a production that will have a life beyond Australia, just as the creators of any show originating in London or New York hope their work will be embraced in other countries.”
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 14, 2011 22:25:08 GMT 9.5
Definitely one that'll have to be put up tomorrow ((don't want to flood the page tonight)). With Simon's quote of it being the ultimate production, it just seems to point more and more to the fact that we should get a recording. Or I'm being wishful  |
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Post by mazza on Jun 14, 2011 22:37:20 GMT 9.5
Don't let it go to your head. Oh what the heck go for it.
I'll keep looking for good articles.
Should the posting on the DRZ FB use the wanted poster? Hay we have 11 likes now.
I'm having problems with my FB profile it says I haven't authenticated it but I have. I can see things but that's about it. I'm trying to sort out my profile so I don't look half witted.
OMG I hate computers!!!
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 14, 2011 22:45:27 GMT 9.5
Not bad for two days and very little promotion!
Have your checked your e-mail inbox? Maybe try the authorisation code from the e-mail FB sent you ((I'm fairly certain that's how they do things, most sites do)).
You can choose to use the poster thumbnail or not if you're going to be posting on the DRZ FB page; the option turns up when you insert the link in the message box.
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Post by mazza on Jun 14, 2011 22:56:32 GMT 9.5
I had already done the email.
I've used the wanted photo as my profile photo and posted a short message with the link to our page. Lets see what happens!!!!!
EDIT: Sorry had to delete the posting the profile is showing the wrong details. I've made some changes and will try again in the morning.
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 15, 2011 9:16:25 GMT 9.5
No worries Mazza! Oh, BTW, I've set up a Twitter for this too! |
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Post by mazza on Jun 16, 2011 11:34:39 GMT 9.5
Had to go to the dentist this morning so I have a bad headache but it does mean I can have a little bit of access to the internet so just had to make use of the time. I have posted a comment on the DRZ FB prompting people to make their feelings know to the producers and giving a link to our wanted page. As we have 25 likes doesn't that qualify us to secure a name on FB. Is there any advange to that? You're doing great work you deserve lots of cake  |
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 16, 2011 11:48:04 GMT 9.5
I hope you're feeling better soon! Yay! Secure a name? Thank YOU, mazza, for putting in the hard work and finding all that info for the page!  |
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Post by mazza on Jun 16, 2011 14:13:19 GMT 9.5
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 17, 2011 8:31:55 GMT 9.5
And now we have 32  That's a lot of info you've found, thanks mazza! At some point, yes, we'll need to start making it more clear that gathering more info about the recording is desired. It's just the matter of going about making the point that'll need some planning now. |
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Post by phalanges on Jun 20, 2011 15:45:06 GMT 9.5
D'you guys reckon it's a good idea to send individual emails to the appropriate people/companies, or is it better to just give input here for a collective US email? I was thinking about writing one today and I just wanted your opinions on whether I should send a separate one or just give my input for a collective one here. Anyhow, if you guys reckon it's a good idea, I'll draft it when I can and post it here so I can get your input.
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 20, 2011 18:28:22 GMT 9.5
A collective e-mail would be a good idea. I sent one to one of the contacts last week but I can't remember what I said, nor has there been a response of any kind, but if we had something that could be said by anyone and if they started getting the same message over and over again, it might initiate a response.
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Post by mazza on Jun 20, 2011 18:54:56 GMT 9.5
I'm back managed to qualify for the state team so now I can concentrate on this.
I sent an email to Gordon Frost Organisation last Thursday. No response which is what I expected. Hope I haven't jumped the gun but as I knew I would be away all weekend I thought I'd sent something off.
Here's what I said:
I used the subject "Where's our recording?"
I am very disappointed with the decision to not go ahead with an Australian Cast Recording of Dr Zhivago. I would be very interested in the reasoning behind this appalling decision and would ask that a full explanation be given to the Australian public who have supported this show and made it the success it is.
How can this show be billed an "Epic Musical" as it is now described on the website and not have an Original (Australian) cast recording. A recording that was advertised and orders taken for. I find this situation tantamount to amateurism, a bad reflection on Australian productions as a whole and the Gordon Frost Organisation in particular.
Whilst I understand there have been difficulties behind the scenes. Sales front-of-house should not be looked on as the only means of selling this CD. Many people would buy the CD because they could not get to see the show live and have been denied the opportunity to enjoying this wonderful show so splendidly performed by an Australian cast.
I would ask that you reconsider your decision and produce this recording as advertised.
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Post by phalanges on Jun 20, 2011 20:29:01 GMT 9.5
Mazza, I hope they actually go to the bother of answering your email. I might draft an email to GFO and post it here before sending it off. Maybe if enough people write to them querying their decision not to do the recording, they'll get their backsides into gear and do it.
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Post by mazza on Jun 20, 2011 23:12:43 GMT 9.5
I hope I didn't go too far with some of the comments. I had been to the dentist so I wasn't in the best of moods. I don't think I'll get any response. I suspect they have done the recording and are just not releasing it. We were told the recordings were being made in Sydney when we went in February. EDIT: I’ve been having some thought on how to beef up our campaign . 1. Is it possible to use the DRZ FB to contact people. I was thinking if our wanted page asked people to be friends would that reference the page or the user who set it up? If it was the page we could possibly get the word out to a lot more people by asking them to be friends, especially the ones who have voiced their disapproval about the cast recording being cancelled. 2. Could we produce handouts to give to people at the theatre. I can’t be there for the last night (I really do wish I could) but I’m willing to do the printing. If anyone is going over from Adelaide I could meet and hand them over before they go. I was thinking of using the wanted photo to get peoples attention and then some explanation about what has happened and what we are trying to do. You never know if people feel the urge we might get a chant of “Where’s our recording” at the end of the show. After suitable applause that is. Let me know what you all think. I’ll start drafting the handout and post the narrative here, just incase we go ahead. EDI T EDIT I start drafting let me know what you think. I would use bold every time Australia or Australian is used to give emphasis on the Australian slant ********************************************************* Wanted: DR Zhivago Australian Cast Recording The show you will see tonight will be the last planned performance by this wonderful Australian cast in Melbourne the show will then move to Brisbane after that short run this Australian production will be lost. An Australian Cast Recording, of this show, was promised by the producers but they have decided not to go ahead with it. A great many people are very disappointed by this decision. After you have seen the show tonight (whether this is the first or twentieth time) we’re sure you will feel that same disappointment. All too often we have seen great shows in Australia performed by very talented Australians but we are denied Australian Cast recordings. This show premiered in Australia. The producers made this decision partly because of the financial advantages of staging a show here rather that the UK or USA. The Australian public supported the producers by making the show a success. All we ask now is for them to give us what they promised. “Where’s our recording?” A CD was advertised and orders were taken but now they have decided to cancel it. If you would like to join the campaign to get our Australian Cast Recording you can find us at: www.facebook.com/pages/Wanted-Dr-Zhivago-Australian-Cast-Recording/ You can leave your comments and see those of others who feel disappointed and let down by the producers. You will find links to articles regarding this spectacular show. You can also find contact details for the producers at: info@gordonfrostorganisation.com so you can make your feeling felt. Please support our campaign and ask: “WHERE”S OUR RECORDING?” *********************************************************** |
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Post by phalanges on Jun 21, 2011 17:18:05 GMT 9.5
Okay, so I've drafted an email to send off. Any feedback or ideas or advice you can give would be fantastic.
Here it is:
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Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to you regarding the decision not to produce a recording of Doctor Zhivago. Many people, including myself, are baffled as to why you would choose not to create a recording of the show’s original cast. The show and its cast are phenomenal, and in the eyes of Australian fans, it would be a travesty to not record it.
I understand that you have made two songs from the musical available for download. However, this is nothing compared to the epic show in its entirety. It is almost an insult to the show, those involved, as well as audiences to only make two songs available for download. These songs only feature Anthony Warlow and Lucy Maunder, to the exclusion of all the other spectacular performers who are involved in the production. The songs available for download do not display the hard work and talent of the rest of the cast. This is totally unfair to them.
Also, I am sure that many fans of the show would very much like to have a hard copy of the songs; something tangible that they can keep to look at and to hold in their hands, rather than a file on their computer. A download simply does not hold the same value as a hard copy CD.
Going to the theatre is expensive, and there are people who are avid musical theatre fans who simply do not have the money to pay to see shows onstage. Some fans may be unable to see it for other reasons, such as health problems. Many fans will be extremely disappointed that they will not get to see the show live, nor will they even have the full show on a CD to compensate. However, most people can afford to buy CDs. There are o people who want to experience the brilliance of the show over and over again. Listening to a CD is a great way to do this, even if they are unable to see it in a theatre.
Furthermore, many Australian performers do not get the international recognition they deserve. A recording sold worldwide will introduce theatre-goers and general music-lovers alike to new singers, benefitting both audiences and the performers.
I hope that this email has made you realise how important the recording of Doctor Zhivago is to the Australian pubic. Any further information you can give regarding the issue would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by mazza on Jun 21, 2011 18:14:30 GMT 9.5
Great you've covered all the main points we all want to express.
I think you have a little typo you say o people and I think you mean other people. Im' not nit picking I just know I hate to miss things like that and only notice after I've sent the message. You may have noticed I edit some of my postings because of typos I'm a bit like that.
Anyway great job now are we all going to send messages.
What do you think of my idea about the flyer at the theatre?
I wish I could get there. If anyone is driving from Adelaide I could possible share the journey. Then I just need to figure out how to stop my husband noticing I'm not here (again).
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Post by phalanges on Jun 21, 2011 18:31:04 GMT 9.5
Thanks, mazza! I've fixed the typo. Don't worry, I'm a bit of a nitpicker when it comes to typos, too.
I think your idea about flyers is great. That's gonna raise awareness, and I'm sure more people than us and the Facebookers who have liked the page are disappointed and angry about the lack of a recording.
I personally think it's a good idea for everyone to send messages. That way everyone can get their two cents in, and the more they see that a lot of people are angry, the more likely it is that they'll do something about it.
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Post by mazza on Jun 21, 2011 19:04:34 GMT 9.5
Has anyone read my suggestions for the flyer. I will get to work producing copies as soon as I know others are happy with it and more importantly that I can get them across to Melbourne for Sunday. At the moment I'm looking at buses on Saturday night but it's not easy.
OMG what am I going to do if I can't get there. Someone I work with has asked me if there is a cure for Warlowitise, I've told her there isn't and even if there was I would want it.
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Post by Marie-Cris on Jun 21, 2011 23:01:09 GMT 9.5
Wow, big convo.
You two have made very good e-mails, well done! And the flyers are a good idea. Although ... that's a heck of a lot of ink to get through. And whoever's doing it will need a lot of confidence. But yes, it'll get people more aware. Someone asked what fans can do about it and I've recommended more Likes on the page and more contact made to the people on the list. I still haven't heard back and I don't know how many people have sent off e-mails aside from us.
The whole page/friend request thing ... I'm not entirely sure if it works like that. I know that whenever we try to post on the page as ourselves it automatically goes on as the page unless we remove our adminship, so I'm worried that if I sent out any requests trying to be the page it'll end up being ... me.
I do hope you find your way to Melbourne mazza, there might be some cheap flights going.
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Post by mazza on Jun 22, 2011 8:04:59 GMT 9.5
You could try by asking to be my friend as I haven't used FB before. I can let you know if it's in the name of the page or you and we could go from there.
How many fliers do you think we would need. I was looking at A5 size and using B&W only.
I can probably get a cheap flight on Sunday morning but I would have to come back on Monday so the hotel bill bumps up the cost
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Post by tori2210 on Jun 22, 2011 16:56:54 GMT 9.5
So gonna download those two songs. >.< At least you get to see the damn thing. I think I'll compose an email too, drawing on the fact that with a CD they could reach a much wider audience. Namely New Zealand. I really want to support the FB page directly, but I don't have an account. I'm considering joining but my Mum isn't too fond of the idea and I don't wanna go behind her back. I'll definitely spread the word though, and get some of my theatre loving friends/teachers to give it a like. |
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Post by mazza on Jun 22, 2011 18:02:31 GMT 9.5
Sending an email to the producers is a great idea giving a different perspective on things. Spread the word if others want to send emails or post on FB the're all welcome the more the merrier.
I can understand your mum not being too keen on FB. Don't do anything behind her back.
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Post by tori2210 on Jun 22, 2011 19:34:13 GMT 9.5
Also, if you know anyone outside Aussie, tell them about our plight too. Once a wider demand has been established, it'll be more likely the producers will change their mind. Because the fact still remains that no matter how much or fierce the demand is, it wouldn't be worth producing a CD that only a few people in one country would buy. No doubt there would be many worldwide fans of the Les Mis and J&H recordings Ant did, and connecting with them would undoubtedly raise awareness.
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Post by mazza on Jun 22, 2011 21:03:19 GMT 9.5
You're quite right. I was thinking on my way home tonight Anthony's CDs sell really well and with his name on the recording the producers are guaranteed sales to all the people who buy his other recordings as well as the ones who buy original cast recordings plus the ones that will want DRZ because they have seen it or heard about it.
There are just so many different markets. Perhaps people should mention some of this in their emails. Get writing sorry typing everyone.
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Post by tori2210 on Jun 23, 2011 4:09:46 GMT 9.5
I'm gonna start drafting in school today. I'll point out I'm a teenager too, and we should get some male support. Pressure from all walks of life.
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Post by mazza on Jun 23, 2011 8:40:46 GMT 9.5
Great, but don't let this interfere with your school work!
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